In this thought-provoking episode, Ashok Sivanand, host of The Convergence Podcast, sits down with Sel, our Founder and CEO, to dig into the uncomfortable truth: sometimes, the biggest blocker to team performance is the leader.
Sel challenges conventional leadership approaches, explaining why overcomplicating HR systems can distract from what teams really need—clarity, consistency, and genuine connection. From outdated job descriptions to overlooked emotional blind spots, the conversation covers how self-awareness—not structure—is the real foundation of effective leadership.
Whether you're scaling a team or stuck in a leadership rut, this episode is packed with real stories, practical takeaways, and hard truths that just might change how you lead.
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